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Parallel Universes
Jun 21 2012, 10:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2012, 10:08 AM EDT
If you think about it, their are infinently many universes parallel to our own. It's not so hard to believe that for every possible outcome in life there was a different way it could've happened and each of these outcomes branches of when more scenarios with multiple outcomes shows up. Just for a small scale example:
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FlipFlopRagDoll
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1. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 21 2012, 8:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2012, 8:54 PM EDT
Yes but when you think about it even more it's starts to NOT make sense.For itstance how can there be an infinite number of possibilities?Lets think about it.The universe is still expanding so it does't go on forever.Scientists recently discovered that time will someday end.Numbers don't go on forever.it is determined that goo-gol is the number defined and named on earth which is supposed to include the mass of the UNIVERSE 1 followed by 100 zeroes.So infinity doesn't really make sense.

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vampirejediknight
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2. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 22 2012, 12:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2012, 12:47 PM EDT
"Yes but when you think about it even more it's starts to NOT make sense.For itstance how can there be an infinite number of possibilities?Lets think about it.The universe is still expanding so it does't go on forever.Scientists recently discovered that time will someday end.Numbers don't go on forever.it is determined that goo-gol is the number defined and named on earth which is supposed to include the mass of the UNIVERSE 1 followed by 100 zeroes.So infinity doesn't really make sense.

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Well, in a way both of the above posts are right. "Infinity" is a vauge and illogical concept, but then again, how is there an "end" to the universe?
The answer is that while infinity might not make sense, it is impossible to conceive of a total end. At least, that's my thinking.
Here's how I think of it, scientifically, the law of conervation of matter and energy state that matter and energy can neither be created or destroyed under natural circumstances, they simply change states. When you burn something, it isn't destroyed, it just becomes ash. When water evaporates, it becomes steam.
While this is not a catch-all that explains all of infinity, it is the reasoning I like to use. Our existence doesn't end, we just pass to another state. Time doesn't end, it just reaches a point where it is perceived differently.
The universe expanding doesn't mean it isn't infinite, it just means there is expansion. Water expands when it freezes, but there is still the same amount. The universe expands, but it is still infinite.

That's my thinking, anyway.
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FlipFlopRagDoll
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3. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 22 2012, 3:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 22 2012, 3:09 PM EDT
Maybe our brains just aren't advanced enough to understand infinity. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
vampirejediknight
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4. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 23 2012, 7:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2012, 7:58 AM EDT
Well, that's the truth. I have to say, being wise is about understanding how much you can't understand. But anyway, I don't beleive in inifinity or an end, just a new form. Really, science, religion, and superstition are all entertwined. Their saying the same damn thing and so many don't see it. . . 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
vampirejediknight
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5. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 23 2012, 7:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2012, 7:59 AM EDT
Then again, I guess we all have to find our own answers and just try to seek the truth and above all be good. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
FlipFlopRagDoll
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6. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 23 2012, 10:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2012, 10:04 AM EDT
In a way the universe is like a living thing. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
vampirejediknight
vampirejediknight
7. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 23 2012, 10:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2012, 10:13 AM EDT
"In a way the universe is like a living thing."
Sounds reasonable, but perhaps you could clear up exactly what you mean to insure we're on the same page. I feel like this discussion could really get somewhere. . .
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FlipFlopRagDoll
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8. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 23 2012, 10:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2012, 10:33 PM EDT
Eh it's a bit hard to explain.I can't quite put it into words,but I'll try.
We're like microscopic organisms inside of a cell.The cell being our solar system and other solar systems.The cells/solar systems make up the galaxy and other galaxies.The galaxies being our body parts or organs.Also the universe is growing and is always moving and active.
I'm sorry if I did a poor job of trying to explain but I'm pretty sure we both have the same concept in mind.


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Lesionia
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9. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 23 2012, 11:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2012, 11:30 PM EDT
How about this: There is a limited number of parellel universes intertwined with our own, but then there is more intertwined with those, and more to even those.
Example: A is our world, Earth. B,C,D, and E is other universes(or worlds) that are connected to ours. So A is to B,C,D,E as B is to F,G,H, and I.
Eventually they become what seems infinity.

How's that?
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FlipFlopRagDoll
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10. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 9:53 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 9:53 AM EDT
"How about this: There is a limited number of parellel universes intertwined with our own, but then there is more intertwined with those, and more to even those.
Example: A is our world, Earth. B,C,D, and E is other universes(or worlds) that are connected to ours. So A is to B,C,D,E as B is to F,G,H, and I.
Eventually they become what seems infinity.

How's that?"
Hmm maybe.But how about there's only one universe with an almost infinite number of possibilities that happened in another reality in this universe?
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Lesionia
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11. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 12:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 12:51 PM EDT
isnt that the same thing? Do you find this valuable?    
FlipFlopRagDoll
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12. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 7:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 7:45 PM EDT
I don't know :P I'm just taking wild guesses here. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
vampirejediknight
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13. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 9:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 9:00 PM EDT
I don't think we're going to solve a complex scientific and philosophical question like this in a mythicalcreaturesguide thread.
But we can give it our best shot.

I think the idea is that there are a seemingly infinite number of possibilities for each of us depending on small changes in our choices, but only one "real" occurence. While other realities play out in parallel deminsions, with other realities branching off of them, and off of those branches, etc., we ourselves only experience on "reality" that we are aware of. However, the choices shift our reality in a way, so it's all very fluid, and different realities have different small changes in different aspects and lives. The course runs fluid, shifting, allowing an infinite sampling of existenses and a subconcious play-out of different ones based on our many choices and those of others, but in the end, our choices in the reality we understand have a ripple effect, and the reality we experience is the one that gets us where we're going in the end, when it all aligns to determine our ultimate fate.

Anyway, that's just me thinking aloud.
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Shirimasen
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14. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 9:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 9:28 PM EDT
look up string theory if infinit universes interest you. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

nazul
15. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 9:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 9:37 PM EDT
THAT THEORY WAS BASED OFF OF BULLSHI DONT TRUST IT
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Shirimasen
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16. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 9:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 9:39 PM EDT
"THAT THEORY WAS BASED OFF OF BULLSHI DONT TRUST IT
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how do you figure?
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FlipFlopRagDoll
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17. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 24 2012, 11:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2012, 11:06 PM EDT
"I don't think we're going to solve a complex scientific and philosophical question like this in a mythicalcreaturesguide thread.
But we can give it our best shot.

I think the idea is that there are a seemingly infinite number of possibilities for each of us depending on small changes in our choices, but only one "real" occurence. While other realities play out in parallel deminsions, with other realities branching off of them, and off of those branches, etc., we ourselves only experience on "reality" that we are aware of. However, the choices shift our reality in a way, so it's all very fluid, and different realities have different small changes in different aspects and lives. The course runs fluid, shifting, allowing an infinite sampling of existenses and a subconcious play-out of different ones based on our many choices and those of others, but in the end, our choices in the reality we understand have a ripple effect, and the reality we experience is the one that gets us where we're going in the end, when it all aligns to determine our ultimate fate.

Anyway, that's just me thinking aloud."
OK I get what you a trying to say.In fact I once heard a similar theory in a documentary about quantum physics.But what I don't get is HOW it happens or WHY a alternate realities are created every time we make a choice.Maybe it doesn't happen,maybe something completely different happens,but I guess that up to us to decide.In my opinion it's all in the mind.Like a wise man once said,"I think,therefore I am."
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vampirejediknight
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18. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 25 2012, 10:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 25 2012, 10:10 AM EDT
It might not be based off our choices. In fact, I think your idea, about the universe being like a living thing and us being small parts of that, made some sense. There seems to a great circularity of order in our world from smallest to largest, so maybe. . .
(Ill elaborate later.
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FlipFlopRagDoll
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19. RE: Parallel Universes
Jun 25 2012, 11:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 25 2012, 11:41 AM EDT
Maybe the universe actually IS a living thing.It certainly is a lot like one and we are still yet to define what life actually is. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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