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Oct 12 2011, 2:11 AM EDT
elves aren't they also known as the fare folk? are there different types of elves? if so how do i find them i want to devote my self to the queen i want to be a warrior to be feared i want to show that not all humans have forgotten the ancient pledge I have dreams or wars and battles of so much death and suffering and yet i feel as if i helped with it all and i feel as if there is an ancient evil waiting to be reborn to spread death across our ancient lands if that is any of the ancients listening teach me so i may protect the ones i love
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Dous777 |
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Oct 12 2011, 7:56 AM EDT
Many spirits were synonymous with the term 'fare folk' including elves.In more fanciful literature they say there are two types of elf. The short magical kind as can be heard of in tales of Santa's Grotto, and the human sized kind who have some affinity with archery or something. But proper mythology doesn't support this. There were certainly many other fae that shared many characteristics with elves (sometimes so much so that they got confused). If the groups do share a common ancestory then it is possible they evolved from a group the Norse referred to as 'huldrefolk' - http://www.orkneyjar.com/folklore/finfolk/huldre.htm There's a tale that huldrefolk were children of Adam who were cursed by God. Meaning in mythology they were around from the beginning. They are also one of the key groups mixed up with elves. If you're looking for different types of elf, you're really looking for other fae that are closely linked to the huldrefolk. (Such as the Orkney finfolk, the German holda and the other Scandanavian rå (sjörå, havsrå, bergsrå). Do you find this valuable? |
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thewitchinsherwood |
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Oct 12 2011, 11:34 AM EDT
NOT fare folk. FAIR folk. Example 1) is like bus fare, a charge for passage or 2) a range of food and drink or 3) to go as in farewell; fare thee well. I disagree about the huldrefolk being cursed by God. ((which/Whose god would that be, by the way?) Elves are NOT OF THE RACE OF ADAM. Do you find this valuable? |
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Dous777 |
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Oct 12 2011, 11:44 AM EDT
No seriously, it's a true myth. Even mentions it briefly on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HuldraAnd it's the Christian God. Which I'll admit is strange given the Norse background to most huldrefolk tales. Do you find this valuable? |
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Dous777 |
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Oct 12 2011, 6:03 PM EDT
Or slightly more reputable for all you sarcastics in the house, check out 'A Field Guide to Demons, Fairies, Fallen Angels and Other Subversive Spirits'. The legend is expanded upon in there.
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Oct 12 2011, 10:16 PM EDT
I'll see if I can find a copy. Do you know if they have it on Amazon? I'm always willing to learn. By the way, while we're at it, Mr (?) Welsh person, do you know anything about 'the enduring love of Morfydd ferch Urien and Cynon ap Clydno'?It's still FAIR folk, though. rgds, TWIS ;-) Do you find this valuable? |
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Dous777 |
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Oct 13 2011, 4:12 AM EDT
They definitely have it on Amazon.And I don't know near enough anything about that romance, can't even find the Triad it's in unless it's the 'Trioedd Serch'. Though I get the impression any expansion on the relationship is nonexistant. They were far more interested with Cynon's father and cousin. Said somewhere that Morvydd was mentioned again in 'EnglynUm y Oorugiau' but I couldn't rightly tell you what that was. Do you find this valuable? |
Logic_Chair |
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Oct 13 2011, 9:10 AM EDT
Dous is welsh!?It is too late now, from now on I will read your every post with a welsh accent. Do you find this valuable? |
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thewitchinsherwood |
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Oct 13 2011, 12:44 PM EDT
Even the bits that are written in Welsh? Keep plenty of tissues handy! LOL ;-) xDo you find this valuable? |
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Dous777 |
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Oct 13 2011, 1:25 PM EDT
What's occuring butt? Where to you by?
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thewitchinsherwood |
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Oct 13 2011, 1:51 PM EDT
Try Wikipedia. That's where I found the reference to Morfydd and Cynon. They're mentioned in the Mabinogion, too, but seperately, Morfydd as one of Gwenhwyfar's (Guinevere's) ladies in Culhwch and Olwen and Cynon in The Lady of the Fountain as a story-teller in Arthur's court at Caer Llion, but it's hard to read as it seems, mostly, just to be a list of people and whose sons/daughters they were. I'm off to Amazon now. TWIS.
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