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i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jun 24 2010, 10:16 PM EDT
I found a loop hole in greek myth that makes possible the next god to take power over "the reigning supreme deity".As in the past zeus did so to saturn,as was done onto uranius! The immortal i have to chose to take over zeus's place is MUST to be the offspring of thetis and most likely zeus,poseidon or my favorite hades. For 'thetis' is wanted by zeus/poseidon but it is fortold that any offspring of theirs would be stronger that the father. this is why she is marrieed to a human "pelops?"-giving birth to achilles(DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THIS IS WRITTEN,I THINK IN HESIOD). I ASK you is it just zeus that would sire a god strong enough to take over,is it just the him and poseidon,or all male olypians,or all gods. if you have an answer or any comments on how to go about this please share.
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Ebon_Moon |
1. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jun 25 2010, 7:34 AM EDT
I believe that it would be any Olympian god. Remember, Zeus was just a surviving child of his father, after his father devoured all of his children, in fear that they would do exactly the same to him as he did to the creator god, however he freed them and they became the other major gods. I assume, that if all of the gods disliked Zeus, they would rebel and throw him into tartarus, thus crowning a new king of the gods. Gaia would aid a would be king of the gods too, for she has already tried to banish Zeus, when she let the titans invade the heavens, even though they failed, perhaps something else could happen which is similar. All gods seem to have the blood of Titans in them anyway, which makes it possible to fight them, if one should have enough power. Zeus was born of Cronos and Rhea, a god and a titan, Who was also his sister, (A lot of inbreeding with the gods...). The gods seem vulnerable to weapons made of flint or adamantine (I think that is what it is called), this is what the sickle was made of, when Zeus attacked his own father. Give your new god such a weapon and he could harm Zeus, though unless he/she either attacks in secret or has the support of the other gods, they will not get very far.
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2. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jun 25 2010, 11:40 AM EDT
Uhmm. As far as I know the only son that could overthrow Zeus can only be born of Metis. But then Zeus swallowed her whole (just like what Kronos did to his children) SO the prophesied child was never born. Instead, Athena was born out of Zeus' skull but she's not the one in the prophecy. Then again, prophecies we're never fully understood until it comes true, so we may never know as the greeks never finished writing about it.
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Ebon_Moon |
3. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jun 25 2010, 12:55 PM EDT
The strange thing is, that Athena was born completely grown, even Zeus was born a infant and raised in secret. Perhaps Athena, does have the power to overthrow him?
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Dous777 |
4. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jun 27 2010, 6:51 PM EDT
In keeping with traditional usurping of the throne, it would be a son for the current ruler. As you said Uranus killed by his son Cronus, Cronus killed by his son Zeus.We are made to believe that Zeus has broken this cycle though by his devouring of Metis before she was impregnated with a second child, as per the prophecy. Do you find this valuable? |
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5. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jul 12 2010, 8:27 PM EDT
"The strange thing is, that Athena was born completely grown, even Zeus was born a infant and raised in secret. Perhaps Athena, does have the power to overthrow him?"Perhaps the godly stomach acids make the inhabitant age faster? Well it would be poetic if the child that is now hanging out in Zeus' holy tummy was aided by Hades or a son of his. Hades had less than his brothers. Living in a horrid world of misery and death can be very depressing as well. While Zeus and Poseidon are able to go in and out of Olympus whenever they want, Hades is condem to his graveyard home. So in a fashion, Hdes is the runt of the litter so it will nice for him or his legacy to be the top dog. Do you find this valuable? |
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Dous777 |
6. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jul 15 2010, 6:16 PM EDT
Hmm, sort of on topic, I heard something but I can't remember where from.It was a suggestion that Zeus' brothers and sisters that were swallowed by Cronus absorbed some of Cronus' 'magic' while in there. I think it said Hades was in the longest, making him the first born, so bada-bing bada-boom, he'd be the most powerful. Well, most powerful out of the rest of the siblings. Zeus was never swallowed but is still supposedly powerful. Do you find this valuable? |
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7. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jul 16 2010, 11:02 AM EDT
I'm not saying Hades is weak but he is forced to do an important but horrid job. Imagine having all the blessings of being immortal, now condem yourself into a pit of Hell and having to a job as a mortician. Not so great now that your immortal.And if Zeus was your younger brother and he got to rule the gods, wouldn't that sting. Do you find this valuable? |
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8. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jul 19 2010, 6:14 PM EDT
"I believe that it would be any Olympian god. Remember, Zeus was just a surviving child of his father, after his father devoured all of his children, in fear that they would do exactly the same to him as he did to the creator god, however he freed them and they became the other major gods. I assume, that if all of the gods disliked Zeus, they would rebel and throw him into tartarus, thus crowning a new king of the gods. Gaia would aid a would be king of the gods too, for she has already tried to banish Zeus, when she let the titans invade the heavens, even though they failed, perhaps something else could happen which is similar. All gods seem to have the blood of Titans in them anyway, which makes it possible to fight them, if one should have enough power. Zeus was born of Cronos and Rhea, a god and a titan, Who was also his sister, (A lot of inbreeding with the gods...). The gods seem vulnerable to weapons made of flint or adamantine (I think that is what it is called), this is what the sickle was made of, when Zeus attacked his own father. Give your new god such a weapon and he could harm Zeus, though unless he/she either attacks in secret or has the support of the other gods, they will not get very far."It's not a "Loop Hole," it's the way the myth is meant to be. Zeus is the YOUNGEST of the 1st Pantheon of Olympians. And it is fortold that any SON of his and Metis, for she was wisdom personified, would overthrow him and rule as King of the Gods. Thus, when Metis became pregnant, Zeus swalloed her(similar to what Chronos did to his offspring). Metis' child was the female Athena. In theory Athena is herself, powerful enough to overthrow Zeus but she chooses not to and is utterly loyal to him. It also must be pointed out that Zeus is King of the Gods by trickery, not because he actually "earned" it. Do you find this valuable? |
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Ebon_Moon |
9. RE: i'm working on the next generation of immortals any ideas
Jul 19 2010, 6:22 PM EDT
It is a sort of Loop Hole, Greek myths are debatable at best, since they all differ from city to city. Ancient Greece was rarely unified under a single religious doctrine, and it's myths evolved and changed whenever they encountered new things. So no myth is just how it's supposed to be. Who knows what their myths would be like today, if people kept that Ancient faith alive? I did mention that Athena was born whole, from Zeus and even mentioned that she perhaps has the power to overthrow him. However Athena does appear to have many forms, depending on which Greek city you visit.
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